Honda Prelude and why the future is the past

I don’t like the past. Period. The good old days doesn’t work on me, because I understood that our psychological biases plays trick on my mind to say things are better in the past. Even if the past is “better”… Can we really go back to the past? And if we can condition things to be like in the past, I go back to my first point, was it really?

Anyway, Honda Prelude.

The Prelude name lies dormant for about 20 odd years, and out of nowhere, it suddenly makes a return, with a Prelude concept that envision Honda electrified future. I thought that the Prelude concept is pure electric and I was dead wrong… Turns out it’s a hybrid. The media is hyping that the new hybrid Prelude will feature a manual, but that’s where things get weird…

Let me tell you one secret if you’re driving Honda hybrid with e:HEV badge… You’re driving an electric car…

Well not an electric car per se, but this is the thing I admire about Honda engineering prowess. Honda engineers understood that the pain point for electric car is its battery as current battery tech degradation to Honda engineers is still unacceptable. However while other automakers making EV left and right, Honda engineers have to put their foot in making something EV related or else experience wise they will be left behind, and that’s where they focus on the other equation of an EV… The electric motor.

Honda electric motor application on its hybrid system have been around since 2014. What Honda engineers developed through the year which in its 4th generation today (2024) is making the whole unit smaller, more compact and more powerful. At its current generation, Honda electric motor is now producing 181 horsepower (US) across Civic, Accord, and CR-V hybrid with a total output power combined with the gasoline burning engine at around 200 horsepower (US). As Honda hybrid today is a series-parallel hybrid, it’s basically an electric car up to highway cruising speed where the gas burning engine take over and the electric motor went idle.

As an electric car (first), there’s no such thing as gear, because electric motor torque is constant all through the rev range unlike internal combustion engine. The gears on internal combustion engine exists because at certain point of the engine revolution, its power drops so shorter gears are there to pick up the power on the lower speed and longer gears at the tail end to maximise efficiency by allowing the wheels to spin faster than the engine revolution at faster speed.

The idea of having a manual gear on an electric car is stu… Wait, Hyundai does what with the Ioniq N?

Anyway… So Hyundai gave its performance EV a “manual” mode, which basically mimics an internal combustion engine with a selectable fixed gear. While I do understand the feel, but the purpose is self defeating. The point of electric motor is to provide consistent power delivery without any delay or response. Automakers raced to adopt dual clutch transmission to minimize torque dip when changing gears in the past, even Honda applied a patent for triple clutch gearbox in 2016 to further reduce torque dip.

With the rumors that Honda Prelude will bring back spirited driving, I assume some kind of selectable gearing mechanics will be implemented on the Prelude, simulated and everything in between. Even though I don’t like the concept of simulated gearing, marketing wise this is actually an expected strategy. Those who enjoy driving will most likely are older who experience times when performance cars drive like the old times, inefficiency and everything.

I’m still scratching my head about where the Prelude will be positioned as. Sure the Accord and Civic coupe is no more, so it’s basically a slot in replacement for the model, but this only means that the Prelude is basically made for US market. I don’t see the Europeans with their fancy public transit system and connected railways across Europe suddenly develops a taste for a space inefficient two door coupe sports car…

Well, godspeed Honda! Let’s see what kind of magic you can do with the next Prelude… Also, how about that hybrid for developing country….

Third Generation Freed is Here

Launching in Japan in June, the third generation Freed retain the same flexible platform that seats 6/7 with its spacious interior.

Honda Freed will always be the one that got away for Indonesian fans as it was launched locally around 2008 for one generation only, to be replaced by the Mobilio as a 7 seater replacement. Even today the Freed still has its ardent fans in Indonesia, not wanting to trade higher/lower because the car is simply amazing for its time and even today. Where else can you get a 1.5L engine MPV with captain seat arrangement that allows access from first to third row? None, nowhere, gak ada, nanimonai, es gibt keine. Today’s 1.5L engine MPV that offers captain seat is an impersonator that poorly emulate Honda Freed experience like Wuling Conferro and Hyundai Stargazer with a hump in the middle of the second row seat for a worse access to third row from the second row. Heck, on Stargazer, it is obvious to get in to third row it’s designed that you get back with the second row seat folded first.

As a previous owner of the Freed who I reluctantly sold because of an accident, it’s sad to see that Honda Indonesia focuses more on production efficiency.

The one that got away…

Freed Advance Information|Honda Official Website

Honda Prelude Concept Just Rocked My World

Out of nowhere, Honda just blew my mind away with the Honda Prelude Concept bound for Japan Mobility Show 2023.

Honda Prelude Concept carries the “driving pleasure” into the electrification era according to Honda press release. What astonish me about the concept is that how production ready the concept looks. Just look at the details, the door cut lines looks like a functional door. The concept even has wipers!

Honda Prelude Concept

The Prelude Concept literally comes out of nowhere because when Honda revealed the concept for Honda e (which is still under Honda Urban EV concept), there’s also a Honda Sports EV concept displayed as well. The Sports EV concept however has that obvious concept car looks, but this… This is production ready, hey, did I tell you guys this concept has wipers?

Anywho, Honda will display the car on Japan Mobility Show 2023 this weekend until November.

Honda JAPAN MOBILITY SHOW 2023 | Booth Map | PRELUDE Concept | Honda Corporate Information Site (global.honda)

What made me finally considers electric car?

Fast keyword: Cost per kilometer.

Just like Newton’s third law, for every action there’s an equal reaction, in economics we say everything has a price. In economics, a price is not always something of value with a price tag but also something of value to trade. In physics, we trade fuel as energy source, turned into a mechanical action to move the person riding in a particular vehicle. In economics, we spare our hard earned money that we trade our own life time for a work.

Cost of living is something we gloss at as we get busy, and if we are willing to focus on the details of the cost, then we can miss a lot. Transportation cost is something that we have to calculate carefully as it becomes something that we have to do everyday to do our work. For those owning a vehicle, cost of ownership doesn’t just revolves around fuel cost, but also saving for maintenance for said vehicle and hidden costs such as accidental repairs.

Let’s not get too far ahead and let’s do a deep dive to operation cost of a car and compare it to an electric car.

Cost per kilometer (or mile if you live somewhere with imperial measurements) is the easiest metric to calculate your daily commute costs. The formula is simple, calculate your vehicle fuel consumption per kilometer divide it with the cost of fuel per liter. On my car (2015 Honda Brio), I get about 16 Kilometer per liter on my daily commute, and with the price of fuel is at Rp. 13,300 per liter, my cost per kilometer is Rp. 831.25.

Now for electric car, I use Wuling Air EV as comparison and here’s how to calculate its cost per kilometer. I take my home electricity cost which is Rp. 1,669.53 per kWh, multiply by the battery capacity (17.3 kWh) and then divided by the range which results in cost per kilometer of Rp. 192.55

Air EV Standard Range
Battery capacity17.3 kWh
Range150*
Electricity costRp. 1,669.53
Cost per kilometerRp. 192.55
So why I put asterisk on the table? Because it’s my own worst case estimate as Wuling only said the range of the Air EV Standard Range as 200 Kilometers. As of 2023, Indonesia does not have governmental body who oversees fuel consumption or energy consumption of electric cars, so any figures are manufacturer’s claim which not might be true or at least resulted from the manufacturer ideal testing methodology which often negate real world condition. I put 150 Kilometers adding aircon power draw and/or rough driving which definitely will demand more power from the battery.

In nutshell, even at worst condition at 150 kilometer range, the cost per kilometer of Wuling Air EV is insane. On my daily commute of 60 Kilometers, that means if I drive Wuling Air EV, I only need to pay Rp. 11,600 (rounded) while I have to pay Rp. 49,900 (rounded) on my 2015 Honda Brio. If a cost saving of almost 4x does not open your eyes, hey congrats, you have made it in life and money is not an issue, for me though, that fact alone truly made me consider of buying an electric car.

One thing to note, the cost per kilometer is still very much a theory as I still haven’t confirm it. It might be worse, but still, even at the very worst, 100 Kilometers of range, the cost per kilometer still comes back to Rp. 17,330, more than x2 improvement from the 2015 Honda Brio.

So this is one thing to consider of owning an electric car… And if your only transportation means revolves around using a 4 wheeler, then the cheapest electric car will do… So hello Wuling.

Hello Wuling

YO! What’s this, long time no update and suddenly I wrote hello Wuling, am I abandoning Honda? Well yes and no. I’m finally in the market for an electric car as I’m badly affected by the city routing restrictions.

My current work place is situated smack dab at the center of Jakarta, a place where crazy traffic met with inadequate public transit. As of this writing, the city government employ routing restriction towards the center of the city with and odd/even number plate. Obviously the restriction isn’t effective enough as people bought second hand or even new cheap cars with alternating number plate to defeat the ruling. There is also the condition that the zoning is created to allow alternative route for people who have extra time on their hands to take the long route (like extra long + crazy traffic jam) to reach the city center.

I tried using public transit, but the result is not adequate enough as it goes further from the city center the public transit situation worsens. So much so, that everybody and their cat suggests me taking gojek/grab bike ride after the last bus stop which defeats the cost saving from using a public transit.

There are two things as of now (2023) that is allowed to go to the city center without having to follow the odd/even number plate, motorcycles and electric car. Motorcycle is a no go for me, as I have childhood and recent trauma about being hit by one while walking across the street and literally watching a person snapped their neck falling from their motorcycle.

I understand that electric cars, even though it has been around for decades is still in its introduction phase and I understand that electric cars with its “green” credentials aren’t exactly true. So for the next posts or three or four (just don’t count it, it will be a lot), I will post about what is electric car and why should you buy it or not.

The greatest safety invention from Honda

The Ropot. That is all.

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WAIT WAIT DON’T LEAVE

So what is the Ropot… Well, it’s part of Honda Safety For All campaign that targeted small children to notify them to be careful about crossing roads. Daisuke Kiryu, Japan Honda engineer came out with the idea for a safety device for Japanese children that walks to school. The device came with GPS, and milimeter wave radar that is equipped on Honda SENSING level 2 autonomous driving aid system.

The concept couldn’t be simpler. In Japan, many elementary children walks to school. However, children at elementary grade age have two problems, their small stature makes them hard to be noticed on the road and children limited vision does not allow full range of view compared to adults. As such road accidents involving children as young as 7 years old is prevalent in Japan. Daisuke Kiryu, having a child about the same age thinking out of the box on how he can apply his engineering skill with the full force of Honda engineering on his back to provide safety for children.

Daisuke Kiryu himself is engineer for exhaust system, and as such does not have the required knowledge of systems to create the safety device. Helping him was Satoshi Fujii, involved in the development of Honda SENSING that literally change the simple concept from a device that only alerts children about crossing the road safely using location service, into one that have the ability to detect incoming traffic.

Honda have no information whether to mass produce the Ropot and sell it to the public globally, but this is the kind of engineering exercise that allows engineers to flex their creativity and come up with fresh ideas.

Ropot in action

Source:

For the energetic “Now!” of Children – Traffic Safety Advice Robot “Ropot” | Honda Stories | Honda Official Website

What Honda (technically) got the WR-V so right out of the door

Hello there gorgeous

It’s so refreshing that Honda product line as of late is exciting once again. The BR-V comes with Honda Sensing tech and now we have the WR-V, Honda first ever entry level SUV also with Sensing tech.

My infatuation with Honda Sensing might be weird for some but considering that Honda pushes a lot of safety feature only to be overshadowed by performance and efficiency is unwarranted. Honda at its core also care for safety for all and Honda is even running a global “Safety for Everyone” campaign. Honda pursuit in safety is another topic altogether, but including Honda Sensing option on the WR-V is not just a right decision, but also a part of proper decisions that built the WR-V.

Let’s see what other thing Honda (technically) got WR-V right the first time around.

  • The name
  • The proven engine
  • The design

The Name

Obviously, heritage brings about credibility. Lots of establishments proudly stated their year of founding in bold letters because including the year it was established shows success, and has been around for awhile. Yes, first generation product does not necessarily means it will always fail, but there is some degree of uncertainty. The WR-V name, now a second generation product means that Honda is aware of the first generation shortcomings, and most likely address any issues with the second generation. Sure there are people who complaint about the name… Yes, there are…. Because W is the annoying only three syllable letter in alphabet. From A to Z, every letter is one syllable word, only W that required its speakers to pronounce DOUBLE-U. For Indonesian, some people have difficulty saying the WR-V name. Some people who have good English say it with English phonetic, WR-V or double-u-are-vee. However, a lot of people say the name using Indonesian phonetic which omits the double-u and replaces it with W in Indonesian phonetic which is only just 1 syllable. Is it a deal breaker? Luckily no, the car is just that good.

The Proven Engine

When Toyota/Daihatsu small SUV twins came out with a 1.0L turbo engine, everybody and their grandmother deduce that the Honda small SUV (then SUV RS concept) will carry the same engine. After all, Honda own 1.0L turbo (P10A) have been used on the Civic FK and City GN. Honda and Toyota/Daihatsu engine even share the same characteristic, being a three cylinder single scroll turbo. To everyone and their grandmother (and some of their neighbor’s) surprise, Honda WR-V actually came with the L15Z, the same engine installed on the HR-V, BR-V, and City/City Hatchback. This is quite a surprise because everybody (okay, proper term, the media and users) are expecting the same engine combo as Toyota/Daihatsu. Sure, the engine gives the WR-V a class leading figure, but it’s not just about power, buying a WR-V guarantees that any engine issues can be addressed immediately as it is the same engine shared by 4 other cars in the country. On another but still related point, Honda Indonesia mechanics only needs to maintain currently 4+1 engines, the L15B, the L15Z, the L12B, the R20A, and the K20C. The +1 obviously is the K20C, but since it’s only used on the Civic Type R, a boutique specialty car, we can actually omit that, so Honda mechanics mainly only need to maintain 4 types of engine currently. Compared to let’s say Toyota that have more than 10 engines to maintain, suffice to say that buying a WR-V also comes with a peace of mind about engine maintenance.

The Design

Design is always subjective, as beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. Don’t believe me? Please, ask your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife/mother if you’re not the most beautiful/handsome person in the world… Well for those people whose partner says “I choose you because you’re rich”, I truly pity you. Well, looks will always be subjective but to me, damn, the WR-V is truly stunning. The WR-V is technically a shortened BR-V, and it is (that’s why it can fit the L15Z), but design wise, the BR-V is simple and plain while the WR-V is oozing charm and class. The BR-V front fascia with its huge DRL looks proper but lacking character while WR-V RS split DRL looks stunning. I could drone on and on with the WR-V design but the best part of the WR-V for me is the rear. The hidden rear door handle, the aggressive C pillar kink, the windshield wiper that’s integrated with the rear glass, and the thicker rear combination light design simply combine into a more aggressive looking design.

Again, I’m stressing that I’m not dissing the BR-V. The BR-V is designed to meet all sort of buyer demographics, it needs to look “safe” as such most likely the design was intended to cater to everybody as much as it doesn’t offend anybody either. The WR-V as it is intended for the young and the young at heart simply have more daring design.

As a big fan of Honda, it really is surprising and refreshing that the Honda I like now is something reasonably priced.

Source:

Safety | Sustainability | Honda Global

All New Honda BR-V :: Honda Indonesia (honda-indonesia.com)

Honda WR-V :: Honda Indonesia (honda-indonesia.com)

Honda WR-V Awarded Five Star

What a proud moment as Indonesian that following Honda engineering guidance, the Indonesian made WR-V is awarded ASEAN NCAP five star award for safety.

The WR-V RS variant scores positively on all aspect of testing thanks to Honda advance driving aid system (SENSING) and 6 airbags. Even without the extra airbags, as you can see from the video above, the car structural integrity is not too compromise that first responder can access the interior of the car safely and swiftly.

As of this writing at least in early 2023, Honda WR-V is still being sold in Indonesia exclusively. However, historically, the WR-V is sold in Brazil and India as well. I expect the WR-V will go global at the end of 2023, with ASEAN market receiving the car at earlier date to slot below the BR-V. With the market demand shifting towards SUV, the BR-V is the perfect car to spearhead the entry level segment.

Honda WR-V vs Toyota Raize: To turbo or not?

I prefer WR-V cleaner design, but the Raize does look more daring

Ah turbo engine, I still remember in the 90s, where everybody and their grandmother in the car modding scene wants to turbocharge their cars. It was truly a wild time with many Japanese sports cars of the era are using turbochargers such as Lancer Evo, WRX, RX-7, Supra, GT-R and many others. Seems like if you don’t have turbocharger, then you’re not a sports car (well, the NSX begs to differ, but NSX is an exotic car rather than a pure sports car). Fast forward 3 decades today, turbocharged engines are everywhere in cars. Many European brand cars are turbocharged, and mostly they are small cars too, so what happened? Are all of those small cars are sports cars? Well no.

Turbochargers today is no longer in the domain of performance cars and more into the domain of efficiency booster. As government all around the world tries to curb green house emission, they introduce more and more stringent emission law that require engineers to utilize turbochargers on 4 wheel automotive products. Turbocharged engine works by forcing air into the engine to produce more power. As most cars operates at low engine speed, in reality cars do not need big engine. However, speed is not just the domain of making shorter time to a destination, but also a safety feature for example to pass a slower car. As speed necessitate the use of power, thus bigger engine, automotive engineers uses turbocharger to increase power. As traditional internal combustion engine relies on burning air and fuel mixture, forcing more air in is the easiest way to produce more power. As performance booster, turbocharged engine can extract more power from a smaller displacement engine that rivals or even exceed bigger displacement engine. The forcing of air however is not without risk, as the keyword here is forcing.

To produce more power than the same engine of the same displacement, turbocharged engine produces more temperature and pressure inside the engine, and one typical result from this is knocking. Knocking happens when pressure inside the cylinder is so great, it combust the air fuel mixture before the spark plug (for gasoline powered engine) can fire. This is why turbocharge engine mandate the use of higher octane fuel to minimize or even eliminate knocking from pressure. In modern engine, onboard computers have the ability to detect and prevent knocking by decreasing efficiency by retarding the ignition timing which also makes the engine produces less power. The one thing about engine knocking, especially on turbocharged engine is that with increased engine rotation, as power is demanded by the user, the temperature and pressure inside the engine increases. One way to alleviate this issue is to enriching air fuel mixture, by simply adding more fuel into the cylinder that acts partly as coolant to reduce temperature. For naturally aspirated engine, simply by having lower pressure and temperature inside the cylinder, they can rev higher, produce more power at the higher rotation engine speed and with using less fuel than turbocharged engine.

The use of turbocharged engine in modern cars for efficiency involves the dual nature of the engine equipped with turbochargers. In the simplest term, turbocharged engine feels like two engine in one, a small displacement engine, and a bigger one. Turbocharged engine does not force air all the time, instead it operates in two scenario just like traditional combustion engine, low load and high load. At low load scenario, for example driving at cruising legal speed on highway, the engine literally operates close to naturally aspirated engine with the turbocharger working in an off boost fashion . For example in our topic is Toyota Raize engine, at low load scenario it operates like any three cylinder 1.0L engine. Compared to Honda WR-V engine at low load scenario as it is a four cylinder 1.5L engine, the Toyota engine offers technical efficiency based on physics alone.

However, one does not simply drive a car only on low load scenario, which is cruising speed unobstructed on highway alone. The combination of low and high load scenario like stop and go driving in city, complete with traffic jam and having to speed up to pass another driver means that turbocharged engine is always on boost at any typical driving condition. The ideal way to drive small displacement turbo engine cars like Raize is to drive slow, with the occasional half open throttle to pass a car only. This is how small turbocharged engine is intended to be used, as the engineers wants the user to revert to off boost and low load scenario immediately to reap the benefit of efficiency from a small displacement turbo.

I can already imagine if I post this content on youtube, every Raize owner probably already typing angry about how their car makes more power early and everything well… Thing is…

Toyota puts their torque rating at Kg-F, I convert it to Nm.

Yes, Toyota Raize makes torque early but that’s during on boost condition at high load scenario. At off boost low load scenario, Raize engine still needs to spin up and makes torque similar to Honda’s larger engine. Also, at the end of the day, Honda WR-V engine simply makes higher power. The debate for horsepower vs torque is tale as old of time. Yes horsepower figure is calculated from torque x RPM divided by a constant, or simply power is the function of applying torque. So both is important, one cannot do without the other. The only thing that matters is application of torque and horsepower. You want to move things a lot? Then look for high torque figure, you want to go fast? Look for power figure.

At the end of the day, Honda WR-V and Toyota Raize are both good cars on their own right. A compact SUV that delivers results in a different way. Honda going traditional with naturally aspirated “large” internal combustion engine and Toyota going with turbocharged small block internal combustion engine. The use of turbocharge engine allows for Toyota Raize to offer slightly gusty performance on slow to medium speed, and when somebody can utilize hypermiling technique, potentially delivers a more efficient fuel consumption. Honda WR-V simply decimates Toyota Raize at all driving condition but at higher fuel consumption as it makes more power. Can I get good fuel consumption from WR-V, possibly, but it will be easier to do so on Raize. Just pick what you like, nobody dictates your life.

Civic Type-R GT to replace NSX-GT Type S on 2024 SuperGT race series

Starting 2024, Honda will replace the NSX-GT Type S with Civic Type-R GT as an entry on the top GT500 class of SuperGT. The change is in response to Honda discontinuing the NSX globally and currently the Civic Type-R sits at the top of Honda performance car offering that is sold publicly. Civic Type-R GT will still be powered by Honda own 2.0L turbocharged engine per the FIA Class One rule that Super GT adopts.

2024 Honda Civic Type-R GT


The Civic Type-R GT as a sedan will surely draw quite a chatter on the paddock as the source car is a sedan, a far cry from the typical performance car that is usually a two seater or at maximum a 2+2 (basically still a 2 seater but with kind of acceptable back seats for kids or small statured people), for example any Porsche 911 or Mazda RX-8. Typical sports cars are compact to reduce weight and easier to manage aerodynamics which is not always the case for a sedan.

Japan Super GT is no stranger to odd car entries, after all, Toyota Prius and Subaru Impreza was fielded and both a 4 door car. However, both cars runs on the lower end GT300 class while Honda Civic Type-R GT will run against Toyota and Nissan best sports cars, the Supra and the Z. Japan Super GT obviously is not a production based race as it’s a silhouette racer series, meaning that the car raced on the series is only based off the physique of a production car with standardized components. For example, Toyota Supra being raced on Super GT is not the same Toyota Supra being sold on the market. The publicly sold Toyota Supra is using a 2.0L turbo engine made by BMW, while the Super GT Supra is using a 2.0L turbo engine made by Toyota. Same goes to the transmission and suspension system which is using standardized components for all participants.

By using Honda Civic Type-R gen V chassis, Honda racing engineers have quite a handful issues to tackle. First thing first, sports cars are low slung short cars for weight and aerodynamic reasons mentioned above. The Civic Type-R as it is based off a 4 door family hatchback is well, quite big. The production Civic Type-R has 1,890 mm width, 4,595 mm length, and 1,404 mm height. For size comparison, the production Toyota Supra has 1,865 mm width, 4,380 mm length and 1,290 mm height. Aerodynamic wise, Honda racing engineers needs to deploy every trick they have learned from decades of racing experience. As a spectator of the sport, I don’t know how to tackle the height of the car, but I do sure know that Honda engineers can take advantage of the extra length of the car to maximize ground effect just like current Formula 1 cars.

So sayonara NSX, thank you for the dreams, konnichiwa Civic Type-R, I’m expecting great things.